Horizontal model navigation using <Shift><Scroll Wheel>

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    Neil Buchwalter

    Jeremy -

     

    You can scroll a model horizontally or vertically using  <CTRL> + <arrow> keys (up, down, left or right). It was implemented this way in order to provide scrolling in all directions.

     

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    Jeremy Schofield

    Thanks Neil but what you suggest does not really scroll but jump to the top / bottm / etc of the model.

    Whereas it is true that the type of scrolling I am looking for is more like that achieved if you were to simply use the <arrow> keys without the <CTRL> key, I find it counter-productive and slow to use the keyboard. It also lacks the ability to zoom in/out.

    Please still consider my enhancement request as I believe it greatly benefits those of us who navigate very large models daily. I also believe that it should not be overly difficult to implementation given that you already support a keypress (<CTRL>) with the <Scroll Wheel>.

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    Neil Buchwalter

    Jeremy -

    <CTRL><num +> to zoom in and <CTRL><num -> to zoom out. Your finger never has to leave the <CTRL> key. Again, the keyboard allow us to provide navigation in all four directions as opposed to just two.

     

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    Jeremy Schofield

    Thanks for the keyboard shortcuts Neil. I tried them and depite my keyboard repeat rate being at its maximum, navigating that way is too slow. I find even the cludgy method of holding down the <Scroll Wheel> and dragging the model is better than using the keyboard.

    Try navigating around daily on models that are 20+ feet plotted and you'll see why I proposed the idea ;-)

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    Raymond Bowers

    Neil,

    Yes, if someone has a finger on the control key and uses their other hand to hit arrows or +/-, yes, they can scroll and zoom.  

    However, if you have a very large model, i does not work well.  Scrolling with just the l/r arrow is slow.  Good for fine adjustments, but not broad panning around.  So then, doing as you suggest and using CONTROL l/r arrow key, I would hope to get better scrolling but instead erwin JUMPS some huge amount leaving a gap between my original screen and the next one it jumped to.  I would hardly call this scrolling and it limits my ability to follow relationship lines and track things down (yes, I know I can highlight them, but that's not the point here).

    For someone using a mouse with a scroll wheel, it would be far more convenient if erwin simply allowed horizontal scrolling.  There is something far more RESPONSIVE about a scroll wheel where a user can scroll FAST or SLOW... like dragging a scroll bar is far more responsive than arrow keys.  It is far more responsive than and keyboard arrows, with or without a control key.

    BTW, the Overview window is VERY helpful for moving around, but again it has its drawbacks.  It is very responsive, but you have to move your pointer up to the window, drag to where you want, then go back to the model.  Super responsive, but for someone with a scroll wheel on their mouse (or comparable scroll area in touch pads), using it to scroll would mean no moving the mouse to the overview window and then back again each time...

    It may not be the way you navigate a model, but if you lived in large models, you might understand the frustration of getting around when the mechanism for fast movement is right at someone's finger tips but erwin doesn't recognize it the way other apps do.  Hope you'll consider such a simple mod!

    Ray

     

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    Garry Gramm

    Hi Jeremy...

     

    I ran into this problem a few years back when Microsoft removed the capability to scroll left and right by depressing the scroll wheel then moving the mouse with wheel depressed, from their mouse driver. Trying to install the old driver ZZI had did not work so what I wound up doing was buting a $20 Microsoft mouse called Microsoft Comfort Mouse 4500 that when installed allows you to program a lot of features into the mouse including horizontal scrolling (and a ton of other goodies as well) . If you can still get this mouse or an equivalent one it is well worth the money.

    If you google Microsoft comfort mouse 4500 you should be able to find it or an upgraded version of it.

    HTH
    Garry

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    Jeremy Schofield

    Thanks Garry, now that you mention it I vaguely remember reading (your post?) about it.

    I'll definitely keep that in mind next time I buy a new wireless keyboard / mouse. I don't think it is a viable solution though for the user base at large. For that it needs to be natively supported in the application...

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